Laser rotary tumbler calculator

Engrave tapered tumblers, pint glasses and travel mugs on a rotary without a squashed or stretched logo. Enter the cup, your rotary and your software, and get the numbers to type, a pre-warped design, the full-wrap width and a masking-tape test file. For sublimation or vinyl wraps, use the tapered tumbler template generator instead: a printed curved template is not what a rotary needs.

Cup, rotary and design

Units
What are you making?
The cup
Sizes given as
Height measured
Rotary and software
Rotary

Leave empty to use the recommended value: the cup's diameter at the top of your design.

Your design

Measured down the side of the cup.

Correct the design so it

Settings and files

Object Diameter
3.400 in
type this in Rotary Setup
Widen by
+3.4%
at the design's centre (not always 10%)
Full wrap width
10.681 in
one full turn
Tilt to level
2.87°
focus drifts 0.320 in rim to base if not

Type these in LightBurn

  • Rotary Setup: Rotary Type Chuck, Object Diameter 3.400 in (86.4 mm).
  • Either import the pre-warped file below and engrave it as it is (no Taper Warp),
  • or use LightBurn's Taper Warp on your own design (millimetres): Top Diameter 86.4 mm, Bottom Diameter 80.6 mm, Length 57.1 mm, with the design's top towards the cup's rim (Object Top). Object Diameter stays 86.4 mm. Never use both.
  • Taper Warp's exact behaviour is not documented. These values are for the design's own band; if you warp a rectangle the full height of the cup instead, use 87.6 mm / 71.4 mm / 162.3 mm. Check with the test file first.

Second design opposite the first: move it 5.341 in along the rotation axis.

Why the design needs correcting
Row of the designCup diameterUncorrected widthFile stretch
Top edge3.400 in+0.0%×1.000
Centre3.287 in-3.3%×1.034
Bottom edge3.174 in-6.6%×1.071

Uncorrected, the top of a square comes out 7.1% wider than its bottom. To look round from the front it needs about +10.1% more width at the centre.

Pre-warped design

Choose your design (or the sample) to make the pre-warped file. The numbers above work without one.

Test on masking tape first

A 1.5 in square and circle, pre-warped for your design's position, and a strip exactly one turn long. The square should measure true and the strip's ends should just meet.

How to use it

  1. Measure the cup: the diameter (or circumference) at the rim and at the bottom of the taper, and the height of the tapered part.
  2. Choose a chuck or roller rotary. With a roller, say which end of the cup sits on the motor-driven wheels: a roller turns the cup by that diameter, whatever diameter you type.
  3. Pick your laser software, then the design's size and how far below the rim it starts.
  4. Type the numbers shown into your software, and either engrave the pre-warped PNG or SVG at 100%, or use your software's own taper correction. Never both.
  5. Engrave the test file on masking tape first and measure it. If it is stretched or squashed, "Fix stretching" gives the corrected setting.

Why logos distort on a tapered cup

A rotary turns the cup by the same angle for every row of the file. On a taper the cup is narrower further down, so the same angle covers less surface: a row at diameter d comes out d / D as wide as drawn, where D is the diameter the rotary turns by (the Object Diameter on a chuck, or the cup where it rides on the driven wheel of a roller). The fix is to stretch each row of the file by D / d.

Worked example: a 20 oz tumbler 3.45 in at the rim, 2.81 in at the base and 6.38 in high, with a 2.25 in logo starting 0.5 in below the rim. The logo's top, centre and bottom rows sit where the cup is 86.4 mm, 83.5 mm and 80.6 mm across. With the chuck set to the rim diameter (87.6 mm), the logo comes out 4.7% narrow at its centre and its bottom edge shorter than its top, so the rows need stretching by ×1.015 to ×1.087. The often-quoted "add 10%" is two separate effects: this one, which depends on where the logo sits, and the fact that a flat logo wrapped round a cup looks narrower from the front.

LightBurn, xTool and other software

If a test comes out the wrong length all the way round, a rotary setting is off rather than the taper: see rotary engraving stretched or squashed for the correction and a worked example.

Full wraps

A full wrap must be exactly one turn long: π × the diameter the rotary turns by. On a taper every row turns the same angle, so the ends meet all the way down even though the cup narrows. Do not use a taper warp on a full wrap; it makes the ends miss.

Examples to start from

Limitations

Frequently asked questions

What diameter do I enter for a tapered tumbler?
On a chuck, the diameter where the top of your design sits (or any diameter, as long as the file is warped for it). On a roller, the setting is ignored: the cup's diameter on the driven wheel decides the scale.
Is it always "add 10%"?
No. It depends on the cup, where the logo sits and which diameter you type; the calculator shows the real figure.
My engraving comes out stretched or squashed. What do I change?
Engrave a line of known length, measure it, and use "Fix stretching" for the corrected MM per rotation, steps per mm or diameter.
Is my design uploaded?
No. Your image is processed in your browser and never leaves your device. Your settings (not the image) are kept in the page address so you can share them; see privacy.

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